YouTube LinkedIn

When two worlds collide



Woman dancing

We asked our recent podcast guest Mike Chitty to reflect on what happens when you bring the different worlds of culture and health together.

My perspectives are informed by my background in leadership development in the health and social care sector, but with a strong crossover into arts, play and identity. In my conversation with Robyn Dowlen on the Reflecting Value podcast, I quickly rejected the notion that culture and health are different worlds. They are both shimmering parts of my world with edges that blur into each other, and for that matter, into just about everything else: science, faith, ethics, the economy, environmental and social justice. There is one system and everything is connected. Art and culture can help us to grasp that.

What really interests me though is that most of what we spend on health and wellbeing through the NHS (something like £130bn a year), is actually spent on illness management. And a lot of that illness is created by lack of connection to self-expression, belonging, community, culture and purpose. All those things that meaningful engagement with arts and culture helps to generate.

Essentially what I see is the arts and cultural sector sniffing around for the crumbs around the table of the health and social care budget, but it could be the other way around. By investing much more of that money in arts, health and wellbeing creation, we could enable people to live lives that they value and therefore with less addiction, less depression and less alienation. In short, we could establish a very different community and society. We need a radical approach to how we create health and wellbeing, by supporting arts and cultural programmes to do what they do best – help people to feel that sense of belonging and connection.

The examples I’ve come across that bring culture and health together in a meaningful way aren’t directly about reducing clinical intervention and other similar measures. Over the last decade, I’ve been involved with Solace, an organisation that supports refugees and asylum seekers who are survivors of deep trauma with psychotherapeutic interventions. But what really moves me is the profound work they do that complements the psychotherapy. There’s conversation, art and food and these things aren’t hived off as health interventions. One of the reasons why this place is so successful is because people go because they feel like they belong. They’re treated as people, not as symptoms, illnesses or problems.

Success stories like this fly under the radar. But they are people engaging meaningfully with culture, developing their own modes of self-expression and connection, which often leads to healing. I believe we’re capable of looking after ourselves much more when we are given access to connection, community and culture. It’s when we are denied access to these things that we begin to need more clinical interventions.

There’s also lots of good practice emerging around social prescribing, although my fear is that the more it is seen as good practice, the more it will be captured and owned by the illness management system.

Ultimately, art and culture could help us find the way to sustainable, healthy and happy lives on personal, familial, communal, national and global levels. This is what we should be aiming for, rather than political and economic misdirection leading us to see art and culture reduced to an illness management coping strategy.

Mike Chitty is a trainer, coach and consultant with experience in the health and social care sectors. Until 2018 Mike was Head of Applied Leadership at the NHS Leadership Academy. There he led the design and delivery of leadership development interventions to a wide range of teams and communities in the NHS, social care sector and related arms-length bodies including NHS England and NHS Improvement.

You can hear Mike’s interview with Robyn Dowlen on Episode One of Reflecting Value: Bringing two worlds together.

Image: Move Dance Feel – a dance project for women affected by cancer – founded by Emily Jenkins. Photo: Camilla Greenwell

Related news

Children in a community setting participating in music and dance activities, with some playing tambourines and others dancing. An adult leads the group in a brightly decorated room with wooden floors. This is an archive photo from the 1980s.
Junction Arts. Archive photo.
News

Junction Arts: Fifty years of creative placemaking

In 2026, Junction Arts celebrates fifty years of placemaking through grassroots community arts. Founded in 1976, in a place undergoing ...
Two people sat opposite each other in a cafe. One is drinking out of white mug. Behind them the wall is decorated in colourful graffiti.
University of Leeds.
News

Working internationally with The Arts Impact Partnership

The Centre for Cultural Value has been selected as an international partner as part of The Arts Impact Partnership, a ...
A brightly coloured butterfly, resting on a twig. Other chrysalis sit along the twig waiting to transform
Photo by Håkon Grimstad on Unsplash
News

Taking the courage to pause

Looking in from the outside, it may appear that 2025 has been a quiet year for the Centre for Cultural ...
Young people sat on stools in a shopping centre. They have headphones on and are taking part in an immersive experience.
Consensus Gentium in Leeds. Crossover Labs.
News

Lessons of touring immersive work beyond arts venues

How can immersive art reshape cultural access, foster resilience, and position young people not just as audiences but as co-creators ...
A vibrant community event takes place in front of a block of flats. In the foreground is person wearing a hijab, jeans and a shirt smiling. There is also a person is a red t shirt and roller skates. In the background adults and children are rollerskating and playing.
Mafwa Theatre - Community Garden Event
News

Understanding and measuring cultural vitality in the UK

Where culture plays such a pivotal role in shaping place identity, fostering social cohesion, and improving well-being, why is measuring ...
Two people sat a long wooden bench talking to each other.
University of Leeds. Photo by Susannah Ireland.
News

Transforming knowledge into practical outcomes

The Centre for Cultural Value is connecting with international academic colleagues as part of a new COST Action: Connecting Critical ...






Keep in touch,

Sign up to our newsletter